Comments on: Greenwash Of The Week: The Nature Conservancy and Corporate Donors. http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/ Sustainability, Environment, Progressive Politics, Peak Oil, Going Green. Wed, 16 May 2012 21:16:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: david http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6633 david Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:57:26 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6633 Again - how much greener are the polluting companies now that TNC has taken their money? They aren't. At all. But they did buy good PR cover from an enviro org, which is all that matters to them. Again – how much greener are the polluting companies now that TNC has taken their money? They aren’t. At all.

But they did buy good PR cover from an enviro org, which is all that matters to them.

]]> By: Larry http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6632 Larry Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:28:33 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6632 If conservation organizations like The Nature Conservancy don't engage with corporations, how will we be able to impact the companies practices for protecting land and water resources we all need? This article about the GMO issue is worth reading I think: http://blog.nature.org/2011/08/conservation-farming-gmo-peter-kareiva-poverty-nature/ If conservation organizations like The Nature Conservancy don’t engage with corporations, how will we be able to impact the companies practices for protecting land and water resources we all need? This article about the GMO issue is worth reading I think: http://blog.nature.org/2011/08/conservation-farming-gmo-peter-kareiva-poverty-nature/

]]> By: Eric_7 http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6631 Eric_7 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:43:43 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6631 Sorry, I didn't mean any offense. Political and business environments are never black and white - they always involve compromise. There are plenty of documentaries, books and articles about the harm Monsanto and other big ag corporations are doing. I am looking for more creative ways to effective engage/counter their influence. I think TNC and many others MAY have a more effective method. Personally, I would be more concerned with how Monsanto and others are funding research by IFPRI which helps to develop ag policy in developing countries. Sorry, I didn’t mean any offense. Political and business environments are never black and white – they always involve compromise. There are plenty of documentaries, books and articles about the harm Monsanto and other big ag corporations are doing. I am looking for more creative ways to effective engage/counter their influence. I think TNC and many others MAY have a more effective method. Personally, I would be more concerned with how Monsanto and others are funding research by IFPRI which helps to develop ag policy in developing countries.

]]> By: david http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6630 david Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:08:14 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6630 Yea, I'll keep that in mind while they continue to look the other way while Monsanto destroys the planet. Thanks for the advice. Yea, I’ll keep that in mind while they continue to look the other way while Monsanto destroys the planet. Thanks for the advice.

]]> By: Eric_7 http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6629 Eric_7 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:51:18 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6629 As you do your research, please mention the positive achievements that TNC has had in conserving land, as well. "Environmental" has a wide ranging definition and the TNC should be judged by how the define their mission. Also be sure to state your strategy for engaging the large corporate players in order to try to influence positive change toward a more sustainable future. If your approach to the large corporate players is merely adversarial, then I believe you will soon find yourself shut out of all discussions. As you do your research, please mention the positive achievements that TNC has had in conserving land, as well. “Environmental” has a wide ranging definition and the TNC should be judged by how the define their mission. Also be sure to state your strategy for engaging the large corporate players in order to try to influence positive change toward a more sustainable future. If your approach to the large corporate players is merely adversarial, then I believe you will soon find yourself shut out of all discussions.

]]> By: david http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6628 david Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:25:05 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6628 Thanks for your comment Ethan. However, I have to disagree with equating the fact that ALL of us use gasoline with the fact that an enviro org has to take money from oil companies, GMO seed companies, and corporate polluters. I have never seen TNC take a stand against Monsanto, yet Monsanto is destroying the planet. Could it be because Monsanto gives them millions of dollars? Just an FYI, Greenpeace does the job without dirty money, so TNC could as well if they chose to do the right thing. Sitting at a corporate table is fine; taking what I consider to be hush money from companies destroying the planet is another. Thanks again Thanks for your comment Ethan. However, I have to disagree with equating the fact that ALL of us use gasoline with the fact that an enviro org has to take money from oil companies, GMO seed companies, and corporate polluters. I have never seen TNC take a stand against Monsanto, yet Monsanto is destroying the planet. Could it be because Monsanto gives them millions of dollars?

Just an FYI, Greenpeace does the job without dirty money, so TNC could as well if they chose to do the right thing. Sitting at a corporate table is fine; taking what I consider to be hush money from companies destroying the planet is another.

Thanks again

]]> By: Ethan Northrop http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6627 Ethan Northrop Sun, 21 Aug 2011 05:50:54 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6627 This is actually a much more delicate issue than people realize. One argument is that if you want to really affect change that you can't just "sit in the tree" as we used to do an hope people don't cut it down. These days you need to use diplomacy and a variety of different efforts to get the gains you want. Like it or not, I bet most of you drive cars (use oil) and wipe your asses with toilet paper (cut down trees) daily. In order to make headway these organizations essentially need to become magnates themselves, sitting at the same tables and addressing these issues through the means in which our world is done today: the corporate world. Do I like it? Hell no. But I can't think of another way we expect anything else to get done besides militarizing these groups. This is actually a much more delicate issue than people realize. One argument is that if you want to really affect change that you can’t just “sit in the tree” as we used to do an hope people don’t cut it down. These days you need to use diplomacy and a variety of different efforts to get the gains you want. Like it or not, I bet most of you drive cars (use oil) and wipe your asses with toilet paper (cut down trees) daily. In order to make headway these organizations essentially need to become magnates themselves, sitting at the same tables and addressing these issues through the means in which our world is done today: the corporate world. Do I like it? Hell no. But I can’t think of another way we expect anything else to get done besides militarizing these groups.

]]> By: Bud Wilson http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6626 Bud Wilson Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:34:43 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6626 Money is not "Value Neutral" - the purists among us are perishing fast. It is a sad but true paradox of our times. Since when did leadership require watered down compromise? At least there are a few more "islands of land and sanctuaries" set aside, for now, that wouldn't be protected otherwise. I agree, tradeoffs stink and the stakes are getting greater every day. Engaging with the "enemy" as "self" is essential - communication is essential, integrity is lacking - dump them from the leadership council, take their money and engage with them in some other forum! See: http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/08/have-you-ever-been-to-a-sit-in-heres-your-chance/ Carry on Good Human, integrate compassionate warriorship on behalf of the Earth into everything we do - we need it now more than ever. Money is not “Value Neutral” – the purists among us are perishing fast. It is a sad but true paradox of our times. Since when did leadership require watered down compromise? At least there are a few more “islands of land and sanctuaries” set aside, for now, that wouldn’t be protected otherwise. I agree, tradeoffs stink and the stakes are getting greater every day. Engaging with the “enemy” as “self” is essential – communication is essential, integrity is lacking – dump them from the leadership council, take their money and engage with them in some other forum! See: http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/08/have-you-ever-been-to-a-sit-in-heres-your-chance/
Carry on Good Human, integrate compassionate warriorship on behalf of the Earth into everything we do – we need it now more than ever.

]]> By: Hugo Almeyda http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6625 Hugo Almeyda Mon, 25 Jul 2011 18:00:48 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6625 Its a shame it is happening, but this is a reality and we need the social union Its a shame it is happening, but this is a reality and we need the social union

]]> By: Lynn Fang http://thegoodhuman.com/2010/09/29/greenwash-of-the-week-the-nature-conservancy-and-corporate-donors/#comment-6624 Lynn Fang Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:01:48 +0000 http://www.thegoodhuman.com/?p=2970#comment-6624 It seems so wrong that the Nature Conservancy can still be an environmental group with those big polluting corps on their council. Large non-profits probably don't work so efficiently. The larger they grow, the more admin/overhead costs. Non-profits could use their own profit-making arm, so they wouldn't need to depend on grants, donations, and corporate partnerships for funding. It seems so wrong that the Nature Conservancy can still be an environmental group with those big polluting corps on their council. Large non-profits probably don’t work so efficiently. The larger they grow, the more admin/overhead costs. Non-profits could use their own profit-making arm, so they wouldn’t need to depend on grants, donations, and corporate partnerships for funding.

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