Torture bill could make you a terrorist.


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Ok, so the title might be overstating it a little bit. But the fact is that Bush’s new torture bill that somehow was APPROVED by JOHN MCCAIN (you would think he would be against this crap) seems to make a lot of people terrorists just by the fact alone that they might not like what the U.S. is doing or they pillaged their local grocery store.

I came across THIS ARTICLE that discusses how:

“Further actions that result in the classification of an individual as a terrorist include the following-

– Destruction of any property, which is deemed punishable by any means of the military tribunal’s choosing.

– Any violent activity whatsoever if it takes place near a designated protected building, such as a charity building.

– A change of the definition of “pillaging” which turns all illegal occupation of property and all theft into terrorism. This makes squatters and petty thieves enemy combatants.”

Um, pillaging is a terrorist activity? Kids, better stop shoplifting iTunes gift cards, you could find yourself in a military gulag.

And another article I read in the LA Times said:

“BURIED IN THE complex Senate compromise on detainee treatment is a real shocker, reaching far beyond the legal struggles about foreign terrorist suspects in the Guantanamo Bay fortress. The compromise legislation, which is racing toward the White House, authorizes the president to seize American citizens as enemy combatants, even if they have never left the United States. And once thrown into military prison, they cannot expect a trial by their peers or any other of the normal protections of the Bill of Rights.

This dangerous compromise not only authorizes the president to seize and hold terrorists who have fought against our troops “during an armed conflict,” it also allows him to seize anybody who has “purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States.” This grants the president enormous power over citizens and legal residents. They can be designated as enemy combatants if they have contributed money to a Middle Eastern charity, and they can be held indefinitely in a military prison.”

Now, the first article I quoted from tends to be from the tin foil hat side of politics…that everyone is out to get you and you better watch your back. Some of it I believe could happen, and some of it I dont. But its a good article that points out a couple of key factors:

– Alberto Gonzales has already threatened federal judges to shut up and not question Bush’s authority on the torture of detainees. – Gee, why would he want to do that? Maybe, ust maybe, they know they could be in deep shit for this stuff when it all comes out.


The New York Times stated that the legislation introduced, “A dangerously broad definition of “illegal enemy combatant” in the bill could subject legal residents of the United States, as well as foreign citizens living in their own countries, to summary arrest and indefinite detention with no hope of appeal. The president could give the power to apply this label to anyone he wanted.”

So, do your own investigating…the “tin foilers”, the LA Times and The New York Times all seem to have some big concerns about Big Brother Bush….

…Maybe we all should watch our back…and remember, no pillaging.

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  1. You’re right – the issue is really the stuff of the “tinfoil hat” folks. DoD lawyers and all the lawyers in the House and Senate put this legislation together in tough negotiations with the Whitehouse (this is not “Bush’s Torture Bill”) to enable DoD to (a) comply with the Supreme Court’s Hamden decision (which unfortunately gives U.S. Constitutional rights to foreign criminals trying to kill us); and to (b) help DoD deal with the very bad actors in Gitmo, rather than just putting them on ice for the next decade.

    The types of Americans who should be worried here are those who give up their citizenship, join al Quaeda, and start shooting our folks or building bombs for busses. But really, they have nothing to worry about. Just wait until this tribunal tries, convicts and sentences somebody to death. The ACLU lawyers will cover Gitmo like snowflakes.

  2. ” Any violent activity whatsoever if it takes place near a designated protected building, such as a charity building.”

    So does that mean that if you ‘protest’ near a church/charity building you would be considered a terrorist?

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