What Is Polysorbate 80 And Why Should You Avoid It?

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Our daily lives see us exposed to toxins in many forms. We breathe them in thanks to polluted air, we unwittingly apply them to our skin, serve them up disguised in our foods, not to mention inhaling cigarette smoke, even as a by product of someone else’s life choices.

Our modern lifestyle is largely toxic, so much so that ‘detoxing’ is a term that we are used to seeing.

Unfortunately allergies and disease are also things we are used to seeing, and medical studies are beginning to make connections between some of these toxins and damage to our bodies.

But what of polysorbate 80?

What is it?

This is a lesser known synthetic compound, also known as Tween 80.

It is an amber/golden-colored viscous liquid. It is made from polyethoxylated sorbitan (chemical compounds derived from the dehydration of sugar alcohol) and oleic acid, a fatty acid found in animal and vegetable fats.

What does it do?

Polysorbate 80 is used as an emulsifier or defoamer in foods, vitamins, medicines, and vaccines.

Why is it used in food?

It is used as a defoamer for the fermenting process of some wines, and also to bind some ice-creams and other ‘puddings’, to keep their creamy texture without separating. It is also used to bulk foods up and keep sauces smooth.

Why is it used in cosmetics?

It can also act as a surfactant in soaps and cosmetics, as well as a solubilizer – helping to dissolve ingredients so that they can more easily blend together. It is used as a solubilizer. It makes products look creamier and more attractive.

Polysorbate 80
Polysorbate 80

Why is it used in medicine?

It is used as an ingredient in some vaccines, as well as in some vitamins and supplements. Polysorbate 80 is used to improve the consistency of gel capsules and to make pills disperse in the stomach.

What products is it used in?

Polysorbate 80 is a versatile and useful ingredient, so it is present in quite a few products. Here is a short, generalized list of where it is most often found:

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    1. Try looking at the website, Skin Deep. I am not a doc or a researcher, neither is my husband either of those mentioned. I am a State licensed Esthetician ( not a med spa tech), and my husband is a Chemist. We can’t find anything wrong with Polysorbate 80. Everybody is panicking about everything these days. I see people jumping on the titanium dioxide bandwagon. It’s a mineral,for peters sake. Please don’t get me started on fears about mineral makeup. It’s what else is in the makeup i.e., is it pure? I would be much more concerned about talc.

          1. Nope. Talc is not asbestos. Some talc contains asbestos. That type of talc is not used in consumer products.

      1. Polysobate 80 is not a known ingredient on Skin Deep so although the site is great it wouldn’t benefit with this ingredient.

      2. In all honestly everything stems back to the FDA who we thought was suppose to o ly approve safe food for us to eat. Comes to light they were bought off by BIG PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES for profit and NOT HEALTH…. Same as all those vaccinations…checkout all the children being effected plus all the side effects from aspirns,Tylenol,motrin,advil…yet they were all approved by who? The FDA….something needs to be done but where to start? There’s so many crooked people with money…Bill Gates,David Rothschild…

        1. What you’ve said here is really true. My husband and I have been reading up on these things for over 10 years now and have changed out lifestyle quite a bit. Have you heard of Ty Bollinger and The Truth About Cancer? Definitely worth looking into. So sad that there’s still so much cancer and other diseases……there are other ways to treat these diseases. Everyone should read the book, “The Truth About Cancer” !!

        2. Way to go, Ron James. You said it. I’m with you. Something has got to be done about cleaning up the FDA. Where to start?

      3. There are things wrong with polysorbate 80. It can pass through the BBB. It has been found to harm the immune system among other things.

          1. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf
            This is right off the CDC’s website, it’s a PDF. Poly80 is in vaccines, and will open the blood brain barrier. It bonds with aluminum in vaccines and allows the aluminum to cross over into the brain. Aluminum is a neurotoxin. I was looking into it in Foods to see who the digestion system handles it. If it indeed will allow substances to cross out of our GI track and into other area’s of the body.

          2. So the lady and her chemist husband must have miss this info concerning Poly.80 What report did they read because sure many of the reports are stating some serious health concerns.

      4. After a number of blood tests, my doctor has found, definitively, that I am severely allergic to Polysorbate 80 so please remember that everyone’s body is different. Please do not jump to conclusions on what is safe for everyone or what is not.

        1. We have a Blood Brain Barrier for a purpose. To protect it from harmful substances. Bypassing it, is undoubtedly connected to Autism, Alzheimer Disease, MS and other neuro diseases that are escalating. The US mortality rate and infant mortality rate is lowest of industrial nations. The agencies such as CDC, FDA, USDA make decisions based on corporate welfare…not citizen welfare. It has been revealed by Robert Kennedy, Jr, that CDC owns, sells and profits from the sales of vaccines. Did you know that you can’t sue a vaccine manufacturer? They are protected. Why? Outside of profits. Living in Cuba you would live longer.

          1. Hi Patricia,

            Alcohol passes quite easily into your BBB, I don’t see anyone boycotting alcohol and saying that it causes Alzheimer’s or Autism.

          2. Jane ~ You have a choice on whether or not you want to drink alcohol. A baby is not making a choice and most parents are not making an informed choice. Also, with regards to Polysorbate 80 and vaccines, alcohol is irrelevant. Pediatricians are not recommending alcohol to babies but are recommending (while most are uninformed) harmful vaccines without given the vaccine insert to parents so that they can make an informed choice. Thus, performing medical malpractice by not getting proper, legal informed consent.

          3. I love you! Lol. And all the other awake people on this forum!!! Can we be friends please! 🙂 🙂 🙂

          4. I agree. I’m highly into researching health and love natural health regarding essential oils, herbs, spices, tinctures, minerals, how the human body works, etc., and think the aware people here should connect! I’m on Facebook as Christopher Dresbach location Covington, KY. 😀

          5. Also, alcohol is drunk and go through an open system, vaccines are injected into the blood stream, a closed system.

          6. Yes in 1986 Vaccine companies were allowed a legal arrangement where they could not be sued. By 1988 the vaccines tripled in number. So you can sue anyone in our world for anything except for the vaccines manufacturers- doesn’t that seem suspicious. There is an injury by vaccines trust set aside. Each dose is charged .75 that goes to this trust. So say you get a 3 in 1 shot, that is 2.25 that goes into a trust for injury victims. Most are unaware of this trust. So polysorbate 88 allows the chemicals in the vaccines to break the brain barrier. That is where all of the neurological problems come in. That’s why we have such a rise in Autism, autoimmune diseases and so much more. People please investigate and do research t
            So that you can make an informed decision for your child.

      5. I’m allergic to all polysorbates, I’ve had nasal polyps removed three times over the years, my Doctor was treating me with prescription drugs containing polysorbates made the condition worse. The foods I was eating contained polysorbate, once I found out polysorbate was the culprit, my condition has improved immensely!

      6. Thats becuz our generation is as sick as ever. Obviously for a reason. Becuz theres people like u who cant open up there eyes

      7. Haven’t you noticed that alarmist and conspiratorial ideas are created and perpetuated by ignorant persons? Your husband is a chemist; that means he’s educated and in a better place to refute misinformation and quackery.

      8. to air on the side of caution. minerals can have an affect on us humans as well, since we all react to things differently and certainly if we are drinking certain minerals in water etc an over abundance of minerals can have harsh affect. old addage if you can’t pronounce it, I’m not convinced it’s good for you. jus sayin

      9. Chrisine: did you look at the MSDS? Worth a look since it’s the official document supplied by the manufacturer of polysorbate 80.

      10. Your husband is a chemist and you are an Aesthetician??? Hmmmm??? Which means you should be trained in and possess a higher knowledge base of ingredients as a professional and all you have to say is that you can’t find anything wrong with it? This is an embarrassment. I’m a medical massage therapist and Aesthetician working on becoming a Dr. I study chemistry extensively because its one of my passions. I also enjoy making my own formulations with the right unadulterated ingredients of course…Why? Simple its common sense which apparently isn’t all that common anymore due to human error, human ignorance, increased sales, increased product shelf life, and Monsanto. It’s one thing to go overboard about what is in food, beverages, and products, but it’s another thing to simply be an educated person…I choose to be the educated person. I don’t live in fear but I’m not going to be a fool either.

    2. it may not in itself ..or it may…. cause a problem to some people….BUT TO SAY IT WILL CAUSE NO PROBLEMS IS far reaching….for instance sodium nitrite by itself in foods may be fine…..but the big problem is when eaten it mixes with hydrochloric acids in the stomach and PRODUCES nitrosamines …….very carcinogenic ….then take the potato…fry it at high temperatures……and the compound acrylamide IS PRODUCED…very, very carcinogenic…..warning…cooking at high temperatures can cause the production of acrylamide….be very careful……..

  1. I have been having allergic reactions to random things. I am wondering if is part of it. I am going to be paying much closer attention. Thank you.

    1. If you have no idea what you are even having reactions to, how could you even begin to just “guess” this might be one of them?

        1. Hey ..don’t be so easily turned around…eliminating items is the best way to determine allergies. Dr. William Crook sent me books he had written about that. He was famous pediatrician. Suspect everything and look up items in Mercola.com

          1. Oh good god don’t look up things through mercola. Geez. Might as well call that TV doctor who thinks breastmilk soap is will boost your immune system (because, breast milk).

          2. Most anything man made will have some side effect that may potentially cause harm. Mostly because nature has many components that serve as checks & balances to prevent any one ingredient from causing “side effects” whereas man-made items do not. Best rule of thumb is error on side of caution if you truly care about your health & the environment & stick as close to organic as is possible in the US…Europe somewhat easier

          3. My grandmother worked for Dr. Crook and always told my mom things to do for us that people are starting to do now! Like cutting dairy when I was young because I was always stopped up in the nose.

          1. Mercola is quite credible and reliably has excellent suggestions and advice. Other sites have extensive and authoritative info. One of the very best is GreenMedInfo. Host Sayer Ji has organized a wonderful tool to inform health-conscious individuals. This is not controlled by pharmaceutical companies and their conflicted advice. WebMd is not to be trusted and certainly appears to be little more than infomercial for AMA and pharma

      1. You can use an elimination diet to systematically figure out what could be causing the reaction. Seeing an doctor (Allergist) would be very helpful.

    2. Hey Kelli,

      if you are having allergic reactions to random things, which is becoming much more prevalent these days, your immune system may be on a decline.

      You can really help your immune system out by detoxifying and it does not have to be as complicated or expensive as some sources say. My fiancée watched two documentaries called “Hungry for Change,” and, “Food Matters,” which are on Netflix and, I’m sure, other places as well.

      They really opened our eyes. I hope you watch them and get something out of them as well. You can really help your body heal itself and, once you kick start it, it is particularly good at healing itself.

    1. That’s right. I use neem oil from JustNeem. A couple of drops on my tooth brush or tooth paste. I also use a free drops with warm water as mouthwash. Have not had sensitive teeth since i started using it. It stopped my gum infections, and as a side effect I don’t have any plaque buildup anymore. Best treatment ever. It’s a bit bitter though, but I got used to it quickly.

    2. Magnesium oil is better. It actually builds new enamel. This is MgO hydrated. Check it out.
      I chipped a cuspid, started brushing with Mg oil and in a month the chip was gone. Good Luck

  2. My kids just had extensive allergy testing through a specialized lab at my Integrative Pediatricians orders. They are off the chart allergic to Poloysorbate 80! Poloysorbate 80 is all new to me. Argh!!! How do we keep our kids safe when so many products are embedded with toxins?.

    1. You just stated yourself your kids tested positive for ALLERGIES. Not everyone is allergic to the same things. Just because it may be a “toxin” to your kids doesn’t mean it’s not completely harmless to the majority of the population.

      1. whether you’re allergic or not doesn’t mean you’re safe from synthetic ingredients. It’s many times, a cumulative affect that over time erodes health

      1. Don’t vaccinate your kids until you are completely informed about vaccines, from both sides; pro and con. Also, remember and acknowledge that “immunity” and “vaccination” are TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. BE INFORMED. LIVES DEPEND ON IT. YOUR KIDS DEPEND ON YOU TO MAKE THESE CHOICES FOR THEM. DON’T SIMPLY TRUST THE CDC, PHARMA, YOUR DOCTOR, OR ANYONE ELSE. UNTIL RESEARCH IS DONE ON NO- VACC’D vs. VACC’D, WE JUST DON’T HAVE THE CORRECT SCIENTIFIC PROOF. I find it mind-blowing that people actually call others “quacks” instead of actually seeing the corruption and profit made by making people sick/dead. Who is ACTUALLY the quack? Stupid is as stupid does.

  3. I would like to know what it is made from. I am allergic to corn, corn pollen and all corn derivatives. I have a 5 page list of derivatives and polysorbate 80 is on that list. Can polysorbate 80 be made from other things? For example, sorbitol is made from corn, but it can also be made from birch. So, does anybody know if polysorbate 80 can be made from another source?

    1. That isn’t at all how chemistry works. Sorbitol is just hydrogen, carbon, and oxygen. It could be made from simple hydro-carbons, alcohols, etc… just because it can be made from corn (hydrocarbons, sugars, etc that are IN corn oils) doesn’t mean you would be allergic to the corn version, but not the birch version… sorbitol is sorbitol regardless of what its is “made from”.

        1. I have seen that polysorbate 80 is nothing more than sorbitol and polyoxyethylene also known as polyethylene glycol; back in 2008 when the FDA tested 8 lots of miralax(polyethylene glycol 3350) they found diethylene and ethylene glycol in all 8 lots they tested. Both of these chemicals can be toxic. I’m assuming if you have any sort of allergy you’re probably dealing with a leaky gut. These chemicals break down the tight junctions of the gut and allow these proteins to cross the blood brain barrier.

          1. So so so many people are dealing with leaky gut. If you have a fat belly, chances are you have a gut imbalance, may be leaky gut! I won’t say what causes it, because I do not know 100%. I do know that a diet rich in vegetables and healthy protein sources helps, but only if you cut out processed foods and starches. Starches feed the bad buggers in your belly. You cannot heal unless you get rid of the buggers, and get rid of the starches that feed the buggers. That being said, once in optimal health slowly reintroducing organic rice, organic quinoa, etc; could be very good for you. If you have any type of psoriasis, eczema, or other skin condition I am talking to you. Your skin is a direct sign of what is going on inside your gut. If you have red cheeks throughout the day/night , your body is inflammatory. If you have chicken skin on your arms or such, I am talking to you. If you have acne, I am talking to you. If you have lots of burping or gas from the nether regions, that is a sign you are stressing your digestive system. I won’t have any gas at all, but put a few slices of pizza in me and I am singing butt opera. If you have acid reflux, I am talking to you! I had it for years all my adult life until I got rid of starches. Now again, put a couple pieces of pizza in me and I wake up feeling like I “need food” in me to get rid of the icky tummy bile feeling. I choose to stay away from corn and things derived from corn, but that really isn’t the whole story. This information came from years of medical problems, tests, emergency surgery, hypertension, obesity, PCOS, psoriasis, etc. etc. Accidentally started getting cured by following a low carb diet without the processed low carb propaganda diet bars and treats and crap. Too many ingredients! Pinterest yourselves some whole food recipes!

          2. Your statement is like a breath of common sense. I entered the whole foods, Pinterest & natural remedies world 2 years ago because my son was diagnosed with eczema when he was a baby. Modern-day Drs claim three is no cure, only time might help & blah blah blah. I knew there was SOMETHING that was causing it. He’s off of his triamcinolone steriod ointment-in place are essential oils (my specific special brand through one specific company guaranteed for their purely), pure unrefined organic coconut oil & unprocessed foods-thank Trader Joe’s, Madison Market & carefully chosen online purchases.

        2. Allergenic and toxic are not at all the same thing. Reacting badly to poison doesn’t mean you are allergic to it. Carbon monoxide kills people, but they aren’t allergic to it – or they’d be dead long ago since it’s a component of the air we breathe. Arsenic, too.

    2. maybe you’re allergic to corn because corn is one of the most genetically modified ‘foods’….maybe corn w/out GMO would be ok for you… maybe not.

  4. PLEASE BE WARE.

    I WAS TAKING 1 CAPSULE 100 MGS.,QUNOL, MEGA COQ10, DAILY. I bought these vits. from COSTCOS WAREHOUSE. I did not know it
    contained POLYSORBAT 80.

    I noticed after taking this vitamin it stopped me from sleeping
    and my entire insides seem to be beating faster even my heart.

    I was taking this product for about two months before I KNEW
    IT WAS THIS QUNOL MEGA COQ10 VITAMINS.

    HOW I DISCOVERED. I STOP TAKING IT AND I COULD SLEEP AND
    MY BODY QUIET DOWN.

    PLEASE DONOT BUY THIS PRODUCT FROM COSTCOS WAREHOUSE.

    I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN SUCH A BIG BOTTLE FOR CHEAP PRICE HAD SOMETHING TOXIC IN IT. I THROW OUT THE BOTTLE.

    SHIRLEY

    1. You should read the info on the label when you buy something …

      “CoQ10 is a vitamin-like nutrient that plays a vital role in the energy production in every cell in our body. Our body naturally produces CoQ10 and converts ubiquinone to ubiquinol. However, our body’s ability to produce CoQ10 and convert it into ubiquinol significantly decreases as we age. Ubiquinone CoQ10 is the active form of CoQ10 – approximately 95% of the CoQ10 circulating in our body is in the form of ubiquinol. As we age, our body’s ability to produce ubiquinone and convert it into its active form of ubiquinol diminishes significantly. Advanced ubiquinol is both water and fat soluble, unlike regular unsolubilized ubiquinone that dissolves in fats only and to a very limited degree.”

      You are taking something that is going to give you energy… of course you will experience symptoms similar to that of something like say caffeine (increased heart rate, wakefulness, etc)

      1. Reading the label is excellent advice. As also to be aware and skeptical of trolls who parrot spurious advice on environmental toxins. Predictably following the AMA and petro/pharma business model, those rendering “advice” are routinely known to downplay the very real risks of toxins. While describing the reactions to recognized poisons as “allergies” and spewing blanket assertions that “some” react to this or that and others are unaffected fails to take account of multiple assaults on immune system, and overall toxic exposures. Terribly inter-related and frightfully complex are these issues. Sensible limiting to ALL man-made toxins as well as healthy food choices, organic, non-gmo, glyphosate-free diet and food-grown vitamin and mineral supplementation along with regular moderate exposure to natural sunlight and simple hand-washing hygeine goes far to build health and resistance to disease. Doctors are woefully in grasp of pharma and know little, and care less, of preventive lifestyle. Such would enable would-be patients to stay whole and sound and not reliable customers.

  5. Strub’s pickles, here in Canada, seem to sell different dill pickles with different brines. You have to read every label. I have dill pickles with no preservatives (Strub’s brand) However, Costcos sells Strub’s with Polysorbate 80 in their brine. What going on here??
    I suggest we stop buying all cans, bottles, package goods from all the big Corporate groups to start with. Then go after the dairy industry which is a disgrace to all humans and the poor cows. FULL disclosure with no tricks added, Thanks

  6. You do not mention it in eye drops that are listed as preservative free and are accepted to heal surface eye problems.

    1. People don’t know how “dosage” works. The author of this paper would conclude that water was toxic if he/she read the MSDS…

      1. Not sure how these studies prove the point either. These rats that had adverse effects had polysorbate as 20% of their diet and the effects were mild. If you did a study about the effects of a diet composed of 20% sodium chloride you would find out right death. All the rats would be dead. People would freak out and call it toxic until they realize that sodium chloride is just the chemical name for “salt”. This is a lot of uninformed people on the “can’t pronounce it, must be bad” band wagon.
        Allergies are real business. If you are allergic to Polysorbate or have you have Chrone’s disease then obviously don’t use it. But to assume one man’s allergy equals another man’s toxin is wrong.

      2. Pat, you are single handedly ruining people’s lives. You must understand this article otherwise you wouldn’t be preaching about polysorbate 80 being harmless, esp cosmetic grade. We all know you work for a distributor. Do us all a favor and stop being you.

      3. Oh Geez, come on Pat! A lot of people have not been “Indoctrinated” into a medical / chemistry education but they can see there is a problem en masse. Increased allergies are just a red flag of increasing cellular degenerative problems. There is something wrong and you don’t have to know all the nomenclature of a medical / chemistry degree to know that. You provide all the wonderful information that you received from somewhere but did you ever stop to wonder where the information you got came from? Add to that, people are getting sick and tired of being lied to by chemical, pharmaceutical, and medical companies for profit.

        “DDT is a safe, wonderful product,” we were told.
        “Thalidomide! The new wonder drug for morning sickness. Safe as houses,” we were told.
        “Asbestos is the greatest product ever. It’s a fantastic fire retardant and completely safe to use,” we were told.

        And the list goes on and on and on!

        And then you pompously scoff at the silly “uneducated” and wonder why there is a growing mistrust of these companies when they claim such and such new product has been found safe for human consumption.

        You know that famous saying by good ol’ Honest Abe,

        “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

        1. “Indoctrinated” through education?
          Ah, anti-intellectualism:
          Helping make the world
          a better place through demonizing knowledge and
          training.

  7. I’m looking for a multivitamin for my infant’s homemade formula and it’s in all of the liquid vitamins for babies…how sad and terrible :/

    1. That’s because it was determined to be completely harmless in the concentrations that it is used. This article contains literally no science what so ever to back any conclusion otherwise.

        1. “Brainwashing”, another handy term used by anti-intellectuals.
          The implication, that learning is harmful.

          1. No, Harry, the implication is not that learning is harmful. And, I do not get the sense that Phil is anti-intellectual. I think the point Phil is trying to make is that to blindly trust a product as safe just because the government or a company has said it is safe is a foolish and risky thing to do. I believe that Phil would agree with me that we should be learning all we can about the ingredients in the foods and medications we ingest.

  8. It’s hilarious reading these comments. All of you went about your lives totally fine, using Polysorbate 80 in lotions/makeup, and eating it without any issue. Now you read that “it is toxic and should be avoided” suddenly you have a reaction to it. Talk about hypochondria. It’s like people who don’t have gluten disorders avoiding gluten because they’re “sensitive” to it. Unless you actually have celiac disease, gluten cannot possibly affect you in any way. There’s no such thing as gluten sensitivity, there’s only celiac disease. Polysorbate is present in animal and vegetable fats and oils. It’s not toxic or harmful.

    1. Wow – I have heard a lot of misinformed people make comments on gluten but yours – Absolutely Hilarious – is not funny at all!
      You obviously know nothing about food allergies, the levels and severities involved or what is currently being done to make food a shelf stable product instead of food. Do some research, talk to people in your community with food allergies and those that are classified as sensitive. ( Here is a hint – the difference between an allergy and a sensitivity is the level to which your body reacts to a substance) For example when doing a scratch test someone could react to a level 2 out of 5 – which means there body does not want that substance in it, but it won’t necessarily kill you instantly. Or someone could react 5 out of 5 – which means they are deathly allergic.
      I am extremely curious where you obtained the information to back your claim that ” Unless you actually have celiac disease, gluten cannot possibly affect you in any way.” Where did you get your medical degree from? Or are you not a Doctor or Scientist and probably not qualified in any sense to make such a claim of FACT?

    2. You are a fool. Do a little research. I do not have celiac but have major problems when I eat wheat. You aren’t a fool for thinking misinformed information but you are for spotting it. It makes me so mad because you could actually convince people that it is all in their head when it is not. Medicine is changing. Thank God. People’s mind are opening. Get on the train or get further and further behind. And honestly how dare you make fun of someone because of the diet they choose for themselves. You are not their body.

      1. Exactly Shelby. If a person is able to cut through all the false data and find an ethical doctor they can get a set of comprehensive tests to find your individual deficiencies and get treated properly and effectively without stupid chemicals. Many, many of these problems will be found to have an organic cause.

    3. Many years ago I gave up eating any ice cream. The reason was that I was trying to lose weight. I lost weight really fast not eating ice cream. Thereafter I tracked weight daily for a period of time. Whenever I tried eating ice cream again after this “no ice cream” diet, I found that each time I ate ice cream, I weighed a pound more the next day. I tried various things, like eating a very small amount (tablespoon). No matter how much I ate, I still weighed a pound more the following day at my weigh-in. Needless to say, to avoid turning into a whale, I gave up ice cream. So the process of eating ice cream seemed to have turned inflammatory for me. When I mentioned this to my family, they told me I was crazy. So, I quit talking about it until now.

    4. wow, pat…it’s good to know that the severely debilitating headaches and projectile vomiting (until i couldn’t breathe) that i experienced for about 20 years until i removed all forms of grain from my diet was just in my head and i can go back to eating whatever i want! yet…i have never been diagnosed with celiac’s disease.

  9. Thank you @Not Insane. This article is one of the least informative pieces on “danger” I’ve ever seen. It’s an emulsifier, people. Without it, your products would separate into two or more phases and your products wouldn’t mix together well. As for the idiot who posted (in all caps?) about taking the supplement Co-Q10…. Coenzyme Q10 is a naturally occurring substance in your body. It serves to help your cells generate “fuel” known as ATP. In other words, if you take additional amounts of this substance ON TOP OF the amount that your body naturally produces, it will make your body work harder to generate more ATP (which will probably manifest as not being able to sleep as well and having “restless energy.”) Maybe next time read the label of the product? Better still, maybe next time do a little independent research on what you are about to put into your body instead of impulse buying any old product that says “heart health” at Costco.

    1. None of the people replying to this post have the slightest idea of how chemistry works. It’s just all about the “toxins” to them… whatever that means.

      1. Pat, it should ? apparent by now that most of those on this thread don’t give a blankety-blank about chemistry or any science relating there unto.
        It’s all about anecdotal evidence and scuttle butt from social media. Heaven forbid we drag the empirical sciences into the fray. ?

  10. Okay Pat, Get a life. Obviously you have nothing better to do than commenting in a vicious manner about other people’s comments. If you are chemist then that’s great.
    Wouldn’t your time be better served helping people instead of attacting them with your words. Really, some of the comments you replied to are years old. Just make one comment on your thoughts on the article without singling people out. You were probably the neighborhood bully or someone who was bullied……I don’t know a lot of chemistry but I do know a lot about psychology.

    1. Russ – I completely agree, Probably a paid cyber bully. I took the time to reply to most of “Pat’s” comments because it angered me how they seemed to be able to throw “facts” around with out any documentation of those “facts” and yet only attacked the people here for not knowing the “facts”. Bottom line is this compound and many others do not belong in food. Food does not need to be shelve stabalized, colored or have fillers added to it, just to add to a company’s bottom line.

    2. Maybe Pat is an allopathic Doctor. Most of them are clueless when it comes to nutrition and 7-10 years behind most science. In fairness, it is really not their fault. They are puppets for the pharmaceutical companies. Cut your strings and see the light doctor or not Pat.

  11. Just found out this is in Apri, a birth control pill
    It’s also in the flu vax and others as mentioned.
    I had an allergy test because I have developed allergies and eczema and Polysorbate 80 was my highest allergen, so I started looking for what they are in.

  12. I have Celiac disease and have been taking a medication that contains polysorbate 80. The company directly states the polysorbate 80 they use is derived from wheat. Do you think this would add any negligible amount of gluten protein to my Med?

    1. Steve, post your inquiry on Celiac.com. You’ll get replies there from people, including doctors, who are knowledgeable about Celiac disease! Good luck! (I have Celiac and came across this conversation because I just found out Im highly allergic to polysorbate 80 and did a search in order to learn where it is so I can avoid it.)

  13. Polysorbate 80 is FDA approved and widely used in ice cream to make it smoother. It is also approved in many tear free baby wash and shampoo products, hypoallergenic and one of the mildest skin products available. Tear free means minimal eye irritation unlike most other shampoos containing skin destructive SDS. As an 81 year geezer and retired chemist, I have used it for many years from head to toes. It is also claimed to restore hair growth or at least minimize hair losses from excessive shampooing and it works for me still having plenty of hair albeit graying.

    1. Polysorbate 80 and 20 are completly safe in particular when obtained from plant source.
      It has been approved by the FDA as a safe exipient in injectable drugs and for long term use. I have worked in biotech and Pharma where both are used in almost every manufacturing process. There is no concern to use them in skin care products at all.

    2. Yes, since it’s FDA approved, it MUST be safe. No disrespect intended, sir. But as a wiser and older gentleman, you should know how “safe” FDA approved products truly are. They don’t give a damn about us and our safety or health. We’re victims of greed and profit over people. Food was never meant to be chemical ridden or a chemical itself. And despite what the degreed lunatics think, we CANNOT improve on nature or be God as they believe. I mean, unless all the cancer rates, allergies to PESTICIDES-NOT food, illness, i.e. gut bacteria killers, digestive problems, anaphylaxis, are improvements on nature? Ever see a drug ad on TV? A million symptoms from a pill that might help ONE problem. They get us sick, keep us sick, and all make money off us doing it.

  14. Whilst I agree the author of this article should’ve provided more information, I doubt this was meant to be comprehensive; it’s most likely just a starting point for personal research to launch off of.

    Pat, your shamelessly berating comments show what kind of person you are. I hope you’re able to look inward and change what needs to be changed so you can be a less demeaning person in the future.

    Just in case anyone other than Pat needs a definition:
    Toxin – a poisonous substance that is a specific product of the metabolic activities of a living organism and is usually very unstable, notably toxic when introduced into the tissues, and typically capable of inducing antibody formation
    Found: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toxin

    Since reading the article, I wonder – is food-grade PS80 toxic? To what scale? How likely is it this stuff could cause an adverse reaction in its purest form? How much would it take to experience any reaction at all (in a general sense, of course)?

    As one who has kids, I no longer blindly trust the FDA or any other such agency/industry and find the mere suggestion that I or anyone else should laughable. Just because something’s approved DOES NOT speak to the actual safety/efficacy of the item/product! Cigarettes were once approved and touted as healthy. So was Coke. Need I go on? The FDA has known about the dangers of aspartame for years – decades, I believe – but has yet to mandate/enforce its removal from shelves/products (such as Equal & diet Coke). Be my guest, if you wish to trust people who don’t have your best interests at heart…but if you’d rather pull your head out of the sand and be knowledgeable about the world you live in, I’d suggest doing so much research you feel like you couldn’t possibly find out something new – then research even more.

    1. Well, Said Chelle! When you understand the motivation for population reduction, you can figure out why our food is made the way it is. Ask yourself what the very rich eat. It is not the crap that they keep selling us. those food manufacture companies are laughing at how they can sell us food which is composed of very little if any real food. The best bet is to eat food that is in it’s natural form. Avoid supplements. Continuous exposure to chemicals can cause allergic reactions. You don’t need to be an expert, or doctor to know your body. Your body will tell you what it needs and doesn’t if you listen to it.

  15. Wow, so much anger! Have any of you actually had any problems with your gut? Also, definitely way too trusting of our FDA approval system. I drank 2 glasses of milk a day until I was 38 years old and I am of the age that was the test group for processed foods! I exercised daily and was in excellent condition even after having 3 kids. By the age of 40 I was diagnosed with IBS which I translate; we don’t know what is really wrong with you so we will just give it a name. I was also diagnosed with many food allergies which I had never had before. Then by 45 I found a Functional MD who treats your whole body and she figured out that I had “Leaky Gut” in which, you are not properly digesting your food so it passes into your immune system which runs right along your stomach. Because your body has never seen undigested food it begins to attack it’s own immune system causing even more food “Sensitivities” not allergies along with other immune system diseases. Once I stopped eating Dairy, Gluten & Pure sugar my stomach started to feel much better. As of just a few months ago I was diagnosed with a rare stomach disease called ” Eosinophillic gastroenteritis”. From what my doctor can determine much of my stomach issues come from many years of eating too many processed foods full of toxins such as pesticides. We have FDA approved ingredients in our foods that most of Europe considers to be too poisonous to be used in their food and is outlawed from use. In 09 our entire family spent 3 weeks in Spain, Italy and France and I was extremely worried about what I would be able to eat while there with so many diet restrictions. I decided to try some foods I hadn’t eaten in years and much to my surprise I was totally fine. I ate pasta, cheeses, drank wine and had no stomach issues. This is a very common thing and really makes me wonder about the food we are allowing people to eat here. Cancer is out of control, heart disease is on the rise, and the hormones is all our meat is wreaking havoc on our girls hormones. I see that a few of you on this feed seem to be chemists and think that people like me are hypochondriacs. All I know is that I have changed my diet to mostly organic foods and grass fed meats to try and insure that I am not ingesting anymore chemicals than I already have. I suggest some of you do some more homework on what is in our food and what the side effects truly are. Also, consider yourself extremely lucky to be able to eat whatever you want and not have severe cramping and other terrible things happening to you! The food in this country is a REAL problem that I hope we figure it out before we ruin the next generation. None of my kids could drink milk thankfully and they didn’t eat a lot of meat either. Just sayin……

    1. Nancense…that is very interesting as i also cannot eat grains of any kind, even organic sprouted grains. I have often wondered if i were to go to Italy if i would be fine eating their bread. Had you tried organic breads in the states before going abroad and were you able to them? Thank you for your comment.

    1. By appearances, “Pat” is spokesperson for petro/pharma complex. Little more than the knowledge that Polysorbate 80 is proven to induce sterility and violates the “tight junctions” allowing it and other substances to penetrate the blood-brain barrier would enable a proper decision of the poisonous “adjuvant” to be avoided. Modern diets are severly compromised and create consumers of allopathic treatment methods. That’s read as: sick people are good customers for drugs and doctors. Healthy folks should, and do, avoid them like the plague. For totally mind-blowing article giving background to medico/industro practices: Unethical Medical Experiments in United States. After some 40 pages of what is KNOWN AND ON RECORD few doubts should remain as to conventional medicine and trust. One can only imagine what passed unrecorded.

  16. Could dizziness and tinnitus be related to polysorbate 80? It is found in Equate fiber therapy which I take faithfully to keep my cholesterol and B/ P normal.

    1. if you consume anything with aspartame, splenda or just sugar free STOP. This will make you extremely sick in many ways. Look this up for yourself. its almost common news. causes blindness, hearing loss, brain tumors, thyroid cancer, diabetes, forgetfulness, mood swings, anxiety, rapid heartbeat, fat hips and thighs, you actually get fatter..and soo much more. Almost in a few hours you will experience this. Get rid of everything sugar free in your life.. Drink and eat the real stuff.. its also highly addicting. If you want detoxes or fiber go to dr. natura dot com and use their programs. They also have a fiber product thats way better.. I used the colonix program and it keeps my inflammation at bay as well as stomach aches, metabolism and sooo much more.

  17. I used any product that promised to stop the signs of aging! Okay thats a bit much but I really didn’t care about chemicals. IF it’s sold to the public it must be safe right? Baby powder – talc – is a great example! Years later women are diagnosed with cervical, ovarian and other cancers. and it is believed to be caused by talc in baby powder. After I had my 3rd cancer at age 36 (breast) the radiation changed a LOT. how foods tasted but mostly products I used on my skin. I used the same pain lotion product I used for years but somehow NOW I was vomiting shaking and sweating. I went to the ER they looked at me and asked what if any drugs I had taken. UM… NONE! it passed after an hour or so. Unknown cause. 3 days later… I put the lotion on same reaction. I AM NOT A CHEMIST PAT or anyone else. I did however spend the next 4 years learning as much as possible about the products I used on my skin. Once I stopped using all those anti aging products that YES had added chemicals like preservatives, my skin and hair changed completely, Im 40 and my skin looks better today than 5 years ago. Make up doesn’t help LOL my skin looks better without none. From my personal experiences, after radiation and cancer… I have severe reactions to skincare or topical products I use. I have seen some horribly sensitive kids since I started my small company. It is heartbreaking to see them itch and scratch. Some have diagnosed skin conditions like eczema while others no explanation. I do agree with you Herman… many of these chemicals have ZERO effect on the majority of people while others like myself have terrible reactions. Now that I have stopped using any chemical skincare products, my skin HATES anything not all natural. At first I could still use makeup etc now it’s as if my skin rejects anything. In my non expert opinion… most people are not allergic to polysorbate but if you think you are, just eliminate any products with it. There are tons of natural products out there and Aveeno is NOT ONE OF THEM! Total lies. It has plenty of chemicals.

    1. You have a lot of heavy metals in your system which makes you sensitive to almost anything else. These polysorbate 80 “facts” are taken out of context.. Look up activated charcoal & bentonite clay detox to remove heavy metals. Dr. Axe has a great blog you should subscribe..

  18. Hey Pat, thank you for your support. The world needs more people like you to misguide uhhh I mean inform the masses. Obviously you are WAY smarter than everyone, so I applaud you sir. Keep up the good fight.

    P.S.
    Es stultior asino =)

  19. Pat’s right. Don’t discount science. It’s the only route to the truth.
    Don’t look to ewg for information, they are slanted (follow the money)

    And when you are willing to pay 4X as much for meat and milk, and have convinced the rest of the country to as well, then go after the industries – they respond to demand.

    And finally, if you react to ALL chemicals then you are already dead. If your body hates everything that is not natural then you are utterly mistaken. I cannot state this gently – you need to educate yourself and not make ridiculous sweeping statements.

    1. Sorry, but “studies” are bought and paid for by the industries themselves and are severely compromised. And, interestingly, no requirements to include ALL TESTING AND STUDY RESULTS means that those unfavorable results are buried and subsequent tests run prior to FDA acceptance of the manufacturerers “assurance” that product has been determined to be safe. Millions or billions of dollars later some “revisions” can be made and demostrably unsafe products pulled. That is, after incalculable harm done to consumers and laggardly regulators rewarded by cushy jobs in the same industry previously overseen. Europe is far ahead of American health protection laws. Russia has banned ALL gmo crops, while Bayer, the former chemical warfare division of Nazi I G Farben is poised to merge with Monsanto, makers of Agent Orange, DDT, 2,4D, and known as “the most evil corporation in the world to control the poisoning of general population through genetically modified crops, livestock, and farmed-fish. Thereby insuring steady market for pharmaceuticals. Conventional medical curriculum glosses these issues and produces pill-pushers and health-food scoffers. Like Pat et al.

  20. These studies are from ONE test subject that were done through an IV. Polysorbate 80 is natural and used at 5% does absolutely no harm to the body. The skin does not absorb Polysorbate 80 nor does it permeate the layers of the skin. Not even Olive Oil permeates the skin. Jojoba Oil is the smallest type of molecule that mimics the skins sebum and is more of a wax than an oil.

    If you drink a LARGE amount of this, for some odd reason you would, of course you will get ill! I cant imagine an IV directly into your blood stream! What sort of human would even sign up for such experiments?? LOL Anyways, I am a licensed Esthetician and there are very educational articles online to assist in the skin absorption myths.

    There is a ton of half truths going around on blogs that people unfortunately, copy & paste. They are severely mislead. For example, many pregnant women avoid Rosemary herbs like the plague. This is ridiculous. Rosemary essential oils and in lotions etc are extremely beneficial for any woman pregnant or not. Rosemary does induce labor, but you would have to eat BUNCHES of it..literally BUNCHES. So this is yet another rumor..like the phone game we used to play in grammar school. I have several of these types of examples.

    There is nor better way to quench fear than knowledge.

  21. Hi, I’m new to this forum, lots of interesting – conflicting comments and views. I found it because I was looking up PS80 to find out what it was, and because I am trying to make some natural skin care products that don’t cause problems to people or the environment – so could anyone tell me what I could use instead of PS80 to solubilise waxes, creams and liquids (like essential oils) please

  22. Polysorbate 80 is reported to facilitate chemicals to cross the blood/brain barrier, according to Tenpenny. Reconsider your vaccine schedule. Get the truth.

  23. “I don’t understand the debate. If people would just look a the first statement: This is a lesser known sSYNTHETIC compound”. SYNTHETIC means a substance made by chemical synthesis, especially to imitate a natural product. it’s not natural so as vaccines, all ice cream, pudding and all sauces that are being marketed and being sold in stores. And sure it can make your soaps and bath bombs suds pretty..but hey, it’s still SYNTHETIC!

  24. I dont know what polysorbate 80 is, but it is the 2nd ingredient in Zatarain’s shrimp & crab broil. I inadvertently burned some in a pot while steaming mussels for the first time and the fumes nearly ran me out of my home. I coughed for nearly 15 minutes straight and my lungs were irritated for quite a while. I had to open every window and my front door to air this stuff out! It was like inhaling CS gas without the burn. Don’t think I’ll be cooking with or eating this stuff any more!

  25. I looked this ingredient up because my daughter just got her results from an IgG food sensitivity test that showed she was moderately sensitive to Polysorbate 80. Now I realize that her extreme sensitivity to the vitamins and supplements I have given her is probably due to this emulsifier. It’s often used in the gel caps. It’s also in many vaccines so we will be avoiding the ones that contain it.

    1. Thanks Jeff for the link. Ive been reading about this and this is nicely organized.

      I want to learn more on paying not paying taxes since its against our constitutional right to be taxed on our labor.
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  26. Thank you for this interesting article.
    My poor hubs suffers with colitis and has terrible ‘flare ups’ wherein it becomes ulcerated. We eat home made from scratch and home grown organic wholefoods but do occassionally slack off and buy a conveniently ready-made product. I’ll be checking ingredients labels even more closely now.
    Anything to avoid him having a colostomy bag at such a young age

  27. I found polysorbate 80 on a calcium/Vitamin D supplment. SPRING VALLEY brand from Walmart. Maddening. Returning today.

  28. I was about to add some ” Beach Cliff Fish Steaks in Louisiana Hot Sauce” to my brown rice and fresh vegetable… so when I looked at the ingredients “Polysorbate 80” stood out the most.
    I don’t eat them often as I have been striving not to consume prepackaged food items and not to mention how damaging the fishing industry has been to the Global ecosystem. So I might eat them this time considering I have already been limiting my food intake, being very selective.
    Thanks for the info… ???

  29. I am a biologist and a chemist, also very allergic to polysorbates. From my extensive research it seems that polysorbate is harmful. I do not allow it into my house and my children and myself do not get vaccinations after I’ve had horrible reactions. So before people go mouthing off that polysorbate is fine, think again.

  30. for me, w/o any research whatsoever, poly sorbate 60 or 80 will randomly cause IBS with sudden bowel movements and cramping. I try to avoid everything with it including alcohol mixers or alcohol products that may have it because they are not required to list it. Cake icing, pickle products, coffee creamers, most pre made bakery products, some ice cream products, I also stay away from anything w/ sorbital in it like certain toothpastes and most breath mints and sugar free gums because my gut just can not handle it.

  31. They need to provide something for these truck driver to help them stay in shape. If there is a way they can give them a discount or pay for a gym membership that would be amazing. If they don’t they may end up losing a lot of their workers to these health issues. Apart from that, don’t you want your workers to be healthy anyway?

  32. Wait.. I have been using “Refresh Optive Advanced” for a while now.. I just now notice it’s in my eye drops!!! Should I be concerned?!!

  33. Why do I avoid it? Because it’s affects the food that it is in.. Cool whip keeps its shape after a night in the sink. Ice cream doesn’t change form after a night in the sink. Why would I deliberately put that in my body?

  34. Easy to avoid food additives and harmful man-made chemicals. Only eat real food. Vegetables, fruit, milk, meat, grains. Grown ethically and organically. Ice cream should only consist of cream/milk, sugar and what ever type of fruit it is labled as. Nothing else needed. Cheaper to eat this way as you are not buying non food items such as cold cereals, chips, gummy bears, fruit roll ups, lunchables, cold cuts . Pudding packs, kraft macaroni and cheese, top ramen etc, All the stuff people think are ok to consume but really is not food. Your body has to fight the effects of the poisons in these items so you’re getting less than nothing. Many malnourished people are overweight.

  35. Also, check out the ingredients in a package of frozen Tilapia. (They don’t list what the fish has eating on the fish farm, which you are also consuming) Anyway…….listed ingredients are, Tilapia, ( poor things) and carbon monoxide. Feed that to your kids folks. Many people do.

  36. Don’t take vaccines? You are absolutely nuts!!!!! Stop reading the garbage posted on the internet. These are the same pathetic individuals who think 911 and Sandy Hook were fake.
    The FDA is not perfect but the system works and works well. So don’t take the vaccine and you will harm everyone including your children.
    Americans consume approximately 100mg of polysorbate 80 daily. It is safe and has been proven safe in rats and humans.

  37. Polysorbate 80 is also used in Chemotherapy for Brain cancer, because it opens up the Blood Brain Barrier allowing chemo drugs to enter the brain. One can imagine where the mercury and aluminum will go to when Polysorbate 80 open up the BBB?

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